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Oklahoma Inc. – Governor Stitt’s Appointment Swamp

Governor Stitt has never had any problem appointing people during his terms.

In fact, the appointments he’s made during his time in the Governor’s chair tell us a story. They tell us that he doesn’t see a government that is Of The People, By The People, For The People, but more a government of the people, for the people, by the people he likes and does business with.

The people he appoints to his positions – and he’ll move people around wherever it suits him for whatever purpose he has – by and large, have worked with him previously, or come from Tulsa, or have donated to his campaign, or have ties to him through the Chamber, or Jeb Bush – they’re not We The People, they’re We The Buddies.

I’m not going to throw in a bunch of links in here to prove the veracity of this statement, a simple internet search on Governor Stitt and his appointments will bring those home for you. It’s all there. It’s not hard to find.

In order to drive the point home, however, here are several examples of my assertion.

Donelle Harder:

A Facebook post by Donelle Harder discussing her experience and reflections on serving as Chief of Staff to Governor Kevin Stitt, highlighting the importance of individual eligibility in the context of state appointments.

Here are Donelle’s stats from her LinkedIn page:

Screenshot of Donelle Harder's LinkedIn page showcasing her professional experience and current roles.

Here’s an article that doesn’t say why she left Stitt’s office in 2020 as his “Senior Advisor”, but the move didn’t hurt her.

She went on to DC (essentially) and started her own Consulting firm, Pliris Strategies, which she then sold to Pinkston (the company where she began her career), during which time she was not only appointed to the Gateway Banking/Mortgage Board, but was owner of Harder Consulting, LLC as well. Talk about landing on your feet.

Prior to that, however, she was

Communications Advisor U.S. House of Representatives May 2010 – Jul 2012

Communications Director U.S. Senate July 2012 – Nov 2016

Vice President Oklahoma Oil & Gas Association Nov 2016 – Dec 2017

Deputy Campaign Manager Kevin Stitt for Governor Oct 2017 – Jan 2019

Executive Team Member Governor-elect Kevin Stitt Transition Team Nov 2018 – Jan 2019

Doubtless, Mrs. Harder has worked very hard and had a very successful career – mostly in government, mostly with Governor Stitt.

As you can tell from the post above, Governor Stitt recently appointed Harder to the position of Secretary of State (after sitting SOS, Josh Cockroft suddenly decided to step down with four other Stitt appointees), only to find that Harder couldn’t serve as Secretary of State – a 4-year appointment that will extend into the next OK governor’s term and be a member of the next Governor’s cabinet whether they want them there or not – because she couldn’t fulfill the residency requirement of 10 years.

But no worries, again, the move won’t hurt her – she’ll now be Chief of Staff – an easy jump since she’s already been his “Senior Advisor”.

I personally think the most telling thing – the most infuriating thing – from Harder’s Facebook post is that she’s all good with her position. She’s giddy that the people she’s working with now – the same ones she’s worked within the past – are all back together and isn’t that grand? She is completely tone deaf to the fact that she doesn’t work for Kevin Stitt in a private business, she works for the people of Oklahoma, which is managed for We The People by Kevin Sitt. Her salary is paid by taxpayers, therefore her duty is to the taxpayers, not to a boss, or the buddies she’s worked with before, as would be the case in private business. But then, this is Oklahoma Inc. thinking for you.

Government is not to be run as a private business. It can’t be. The government of the state of Oklahoma is the PEOPLE OF OKLAHOMA, not the elected and appointed officials. The PEOPLE OF OKLAHOMA elect their fellow citizens to government office to manage the state for them using the dollars that are forcibly taken from them in the way of taxes and fees. Because they are forcibly taken, the employees of the PEOPLE OF OKLAHOMA have a duty to manage those tax dollars appropriately while working continuously to protect their liberty – the only job any elected official has.

Dustin Hilliary:

Notice he’s now Stitt’s “Chief Negotiator”. What is that? Well, we’ll never know because there is no job for that in the Oklahoma Job Catalog. Interesting. How much will this employee make off the back of taxpayers? How could we know?

Hilliary has donated quite a lot of money to Stitt – who appointed him to a 9-year term as an Oklahoma State Reagent (he’s now the Chair) though he never got a college degree. An article in the Oklahoman had this to say about Hilliary and Ostrowe – also included in Harder’s post.

Hilliary is a co-owner of Lawton-based Hilliary Communications, a telephone and broadband service provider that has more than 15,000 customers in Oklahoma, Texas and Iowa. Ostrowe is the president and CEO of O&M Restaurant Group, an Oklahoma City company that operates Taco Bell franchises. Harder has clients through her public relations and consulting work.

All three have donated to Stitt’s campaigns in the past, records show. Hilliary donated $9,000, and Ostrowe donated $8,300. Harder, who has also worked for Stitt’s campaign, donated $1,000.

Abegail Cave, the communications director for the governor’s office, would not say whether the appointees would be required to step away from their non-government work. She also would not say how much each of Stitt’s new appointees will be paid.

What? Can you do that? SHOULD you do that as THE CENTRAL STEWARD OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS? How is this not the perfect example of “he who has the gold makes the rules”?

Benjamin Lepak:

Benjamin is the son of current Representative Mark Lepak.

His sister Sarah Lepak was Governor Stitt’s Assistant General Counsel at Gateway Mortgage Group, LLC, for five years from Apr 2012 – Mar 2017. She also served on the Oklahoma State Board of Education – one of two not fired when Governor Stitt fired Donald Burdick, Kendra Wesson, and Katie Quebedeaux – until Governor Stitt removed she and the other member, Zach Archer quietly on October 2nd. (In their place he has appointed Brian Bobek and Wes Nofire. Both have been appointed by Stitt to other Oklahoma boards previously.)

Benjamin is the current General Counsel to the Governor – since October of 2024. Might it be worth asking how Lepak’s “brilliant mind” didn’t know that Harder couldn’t be appointed SOS? Prior to that, Benjamin was the Executive Director of the State Chamber Research Foundation Oklahoma 21st Century from November 2020 until taking the General Counsel position.

Why Is Any Of This A Problem?

Here’s why. There is a process set up by which We The People may send in application to be appointed to serve on a Board, or a Commission in Oklahoma.

Ideally, qualified individuals from the population of We The People in Oklahoma use this form to submit an application for specific appointments in which they have interest. People from the Governor’s office, then, ideally, look over the applications and move forward those most qualified to the Governor for his selection.

This is clearly not happening – certainly, not at top levels.

Let’s review some of the most controversial of Governor Stitt’s appointments so far.

Shelley Zumwalt – according to her LinkdIn page, Zumwalt graduated from University of Central Oklahoma in 2002 with a BS in Business/Corporate Communications. There is nothing on her LinkdIn that accounts for the years 2002-2012, but in 2012, she became the “Communications Manager” for OMES. After that, it was off to the races with one government job after another; Director of Public Affairs for Governor Mary Fallin, Director of Public Affairs for OMES – then, in 2019, she was appointed “Chief Communications and Strategic Engagement Officer Oklahoma” of the Oklahoma Health Care Authority by Governor Stitt – yet another job not in the Oklahoma Job Description Manager. After that, she was in another made up job – Chief Innovation Officer at OMES – and then an actual job posting, Executive Director, Oklahoma Employment Security Commission and finally Executive Director at the Oklahoma Tourism Department.

Essentially forced out of office after Cindy Bird’s scathing audit about her use of taxpayer dollars during the pandemic – where it was found that she essentially paid her husband’s firm for software work and then told the public it wasn’t a big deal because there was nothing going on.

Jefferey Cartmell – Cartmell got his JD in 2012 from OU, after which he became Governor Mary Fallin’s General Counsel. Gosh. One minute you’re an OU law student and the next you’re the Governor’s General Counsel. Amazing.

After that, it was nearly just one government job after the next for Cartmell; Director and Counsel State of Oklahoma – Gaming Compliance for two years, Associate Attorney Lytle Soule & Curlee, for 2 years, Deputy General Counsel Office of Governor Kevin Stitt (starting from the time he took office in 2019) for 2 years, Counsel to Secretary of State – Oklahoma Secretary of State 2 years, Executive Director – Office Of Juvenile Affairs 1 year, Director, Oklahoma DHS.

Now mind you, Cartmell may be a great attorney, but I see nothing that would make him even eligible to be appointed to the Executive Director of the Office of Juvenile Affairs or OKDHS positions. In fact, after allegations of widespread abuse at the Tulsa Juvenile Center resulted in lawsuits, investigations and at least one person charged for having sex with a minor, Carmell was moved from the OJA to OKDHS. How many people do you know are moved to a larger oversight job when they’ve apparently failed at the lesser oversight job? It’s worth it to ask.

Now Cartmell is in a position over an agency that we know – thanks to the wonderful detective/reporting work of Katy Smith at V1SUT – has – at minimum – trafficked children to pedophiles and taken them away from their parents for forced medical treatment. Unfortunately, swamp creatures are much better at landing other government jobs than protecting We The People from the agencies they head. It is actually disgusting.

I can only hope that Oklahomans have learned valuable lessons from King – sorry – Governor Stitt’s tenure and that they’ll never again fall for a fast-talking businessman with an ethically iffy business background who wants to turn Oklahoma into a business his buddies can run on the backs of We The People.

While DHS Continues To Ignore The Tragedy They Created, Lincoln’s Family Continues To Fight

SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM TO FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN TAKE ACTION TO HELP RETURN LINCOLN LOCHMAN TO HIS PARENTS!

Our guest for today’s live podcast was our friend Katy Smith with V1SUT (Rumble, YouTube).

Though she’s been on the program to talk about Lincoln Lochman before (June 25, 2025), today she updated us on the case. It’s still ugly and DHS is still completely at fault for removing a baby from his parents and essentially trafficking him to a same sex couple – one of whom was indicted twice for child sex crimes.

Today, Katy talked about two new developments in the case that make everything worse and DHS even more at fault. They are so mindboggling and just flat wrong, I cut two shorts out of the full podcast in order to put a fine point on them.

The first one has to do with DHS just flat not following their own laws, but then again, I think we’d find that this happens quite a bit with government agencies. After all, who oversights government agencies like DHS? More government? Yup. Hmmm. Government oversight of Government – that has to end up with We The People coming out on top, right? LOLOLOL

So how UNFUNNY was that? Can you imagine being Lincoln’s parents and realizing that a government agency has your child and they are not even following the law – meaning if they were, YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR SON BACK? That’s just awful.

But then, there’s this…

Even though Oklahoma DHS is mandated to keep children with their parents, if they can’t, they are mandated to keep them within the child’s family. Here again, the Lochman’s get screwed. DHS completely ignores the emails coming from Andrew’s brother and put Lincoln with a same sex couple, one of which COULDN’T KEEP HIS HANDS OFF MALE BABIES. If the world were even sort of fair, heads would be ROLLING at Oklahoma DHS, but as it is, Governor Stitt-appointed head of OKDHS, Jeffrey Cartmell, refuses to answer any of Katy’s inquiries.

Let’s not get on Governor Stitt’s track record of HORRIBLE appointments, let’s just stick with the fact that Cartmell was head of The Office of Juvenile Affairs when the Tulsa Juvenile Justice Center was investigated by the OSBI because it was reported that employees were abusing children in their care.

In all honesty, this is one of the most horrific cases of GOVERNMENT ABUSE AND MALFEASANCE I’ve seen in some time. If you’re interested in helping the Lochman’s get Lincoln back to them, Katy has put some information together to help us do that. And, as she says in the video, do not forget that WE ARE ALL STATUTORY REPORTERS, meaning that once we know a child is being abused we MUST report that abuse.

Here’s how we’ll report:

Call the Oklahoma Oklahoma Child Abuse Hotline: 1-800-522-3511, or make a referral by email to: inforeferral@okdhs

Because Lincoln has been traced to Kansas, also call the Kansas Protection Report Center Child Abuse Hotline: 1-800-922-5330 (there is no email referral)

This is Lincoln’s information:

  1. Child’s name: Lincoln Harrison (adoptive name), Lincoln Sarver Lochman (birth name)
  2. Child’s date of birth: 12/15/2020 (Age 4)
  3. Risk of harm: Sexual abuse
  4. Caregiver: Ryan Marcus Harrison (formerly Ryan Marcus McManigal)
  5. Address: 5516 N SANDKEY CT WICHITA, KS
  6. Caregiver’s place of employment: Heartspring,8700 E 29th St N, Wichita, KS 67226, United States

When you make your report, you can say something like this:

I’m part of a group of concerned citizens who are increasingly concerned about Lincoln Lochman’s whereabouts and safety. His current caretaker was married to a man twice arrested for child molestation. We are very concerned about his health and safety and want him rightfully returned to his parents Andrew and Gardenia Lochman in Oklahoma.

When you are finished making your report, request the agency respond to you with a referral or case number so that you can follow up to get the status of the report you made.

LINKS TO V1SUT SUBSTACK ARTICLES:

  1. Same-Sex Adoptee Privilege: Groomed OKDHS Solicits Child Molester’s Opinion to Sway Court, End Bio Parents Rights
  2. Where is Lincoln? Oklahoma Child Welfare Push for Same-Sex Adoption Placed Little Boy with Twice Arrested Molester
  3. Kansas Fails to Prosecute, Puts OK’s K-12 Students and Adopted Child in Hands of Child Sex Abuser
  4. Moore ES Teacher & Adoptive Father Takes Own Life After Indictment for Molesting Child on Cruise Ship

Now…LET’S BRING LINCOLN HOME!

Exposing Another Narrative For The Oklahoma City Bombing

This morning we welcomed former legislator, Charles Key, to the podcast to talk about his research regarding the Oklahoma City bombing.

An Oklahoma Representative in 1995, Key used his role to create a committee that performed an in depth investigation of the bombing which, in 2001, produced at 555 page report full of interviews, photographs and research. For many years, Key has spoken on their research and for as many years, he’s been vilified by Oklahomans who don’t want another explanation other than terrorism for that tragic, horrific loss of life that resulted from the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in downtown Oklahoma City. Additionally, many people don’t want to believe their government could – or would – do anything to hurt them, so it became easier to vilify Key rather than actually looking at the work he spent years doing so that Oklahomans would have access to the truth and not just a government – or media – narrative.

Interestingly, today’s podcast started out a mess. My internet wouldn’t support the podcast and I had to get in and out of the streaming program several times to get it to load. We had to go live late and even then, I was frozen for a bit before my internet finally worked. Charles couldn’t get his slide show to load. Then, Charles’ internet connection kept going in and out on him. It was VERY hard not to succumb to a voice in my head screaming “CONSPIRACY”! (I’m only sort of joking here! LOL). Though I’ve taken a few clips – which I’ll post below – you’ll want to watch the full podcast on YouTube and Rumble. Even at two full hours, we only got midway through Key’s presentation, so he’ll be back to finish on Wednesday, August 13th at 9am, so mark your calendars accordingly.

To cut to the chase, Key – and the committee – believe that the OKC bombing was a sting operation by the ATF that went bad, not a terrorist-planned plot. In this particular clip, Charles makes the point that, although the Murrah building was home to the ATF, the ATF wasn’t at home the morning of the bombing and witness after witness testified to that fact.

In the clip below, Charles talks about all the witnesses around the Murrah Building who saw Timothy McVeigh with one or two other men – none of whom wereTerry Nichols. What about these men? Why did no one track them down? Why were they not part of a further investigation? Just this situation alone provides way too many questions about the accepted narrative.

In no way was the report prepared by Charles Key and the committee meant to hurt bombing survivors, or to make their horrific situation anything other than exactly what it was – horrific. It was simply meant to bring truth and transparency to a terrible event for which the narrative created by the government and the media didn’t fit once people began to look closely.

In America, we are to be free to question our government; to examine it’s answers for things like the bombing, or 9/11, or where our tax dollars go, or what its divisions – secret and not – do. We have the right to ask if our government is spying on us, or funding regime change efforts resulting in the deaths of Americans, or if a three-letter agency ran an operation meant to do something to scare people or otherwise propel them into asking for legislation that would give them more power over the American people, or that framed American citizens for something they didn’t do that they government agents did instead.

So, if you think Charles Key is a crackpot, or you’re offended (like YouTube apparently!) that we have the temerity to buck the words the government strings together and tells us about certain things, this podcast probably isn’t for you. If, on the other hand, you like to practice discernment and critical thinking that might mean once-cherished ideas shatter like glass that get swept into the trash at the end of the day, hang out here with us, we’ve got your number.

Our Latest Interview With V1SUT – You Have To See It To Believe It – Action Needed

This morning, we had our friend Mary with V1SUT on the podcast to talk about another horrific case that has been completely mishandled by Oklahoma DHS.

Normally, I take the longer, live video and cut it down into a few smaller segments so people can get an idea of what the podcast is about until they have time to watch the full video (on YouTube or Rumble), or to share with people on social media. I just can’t do that for this podcast. The case we talked about is so utterly awful, there really isn’t a way to understand it without seeing the whole video – or reading Mary’s reporting on her Substack.

I’m not sure we’ve had more people comment on a video than we had the one this morning – and it was clear – most viewers believe the little boy in this case was trafficked by DHS. Yes. Trafficked.

How does that happen anywhere, let alone Oklahoma? Numerous factors, but none more prevalent than our utterly collapsed court system and the DHS shift in ideology from keeping babies/children with families to providing children to same sex couples. Several people commenting on the live broadcast told about how they’ve actually witnessed DAs, judges and attorneys believe DHS workers over other observers in the system, leaving children in unsafe situations or returning them to unsafe situations.

Clearly the child and family in this case are being grievously harmed by Oklahoma government and Oklahoma taxpayers need to know how bad this case is and how much damage is being done to Oklahoma citizens who try to stand up for their rights.

Please take the time to watch the full video – the comments made by the mom and several other knowledgeable viewers will help bring home the severity of this case. Then, after watching, please, PLEASE, take the steps Mary’s outlined at the end. This family needs our help – and by all accounts – they deserve it.

I’m dropping the podcast below, so that you can share this article with friends and family – which we all hope you will.

Lastly, please note that while AG Gentner Drummond is running for Governor, he hasn’t lifted a finger to help stop the horrors happening at DHS. Neither has our Governor, who has the ability to convene a Grand Jury to look into any of these cases. It’s truly unbearable that people who talk about the importance of keeping children safe in political stump speeches can’t be counted on to do their jobs when elected – which – fundamentally means protecting the liberty and sovereignty of Oklahoma families. That fact needs to be remembered at every voting booth in every county in Oklahoma next year.

Tick-Borne Diseases In Oklahoma – Government Bioweapons?

Friday, April 11th, our friend and stellar researcher, Mary, with V1SUT Vantage came on to talk about tick-borne illnesses in Oklahoma. I was really looking forward to this because, back in the early 90’s I worked for the Oklahoma State Health Department as an Epidemiologist for a couple years.

During my time there, I wrote a paper, “Ticks and Tick-borne Diseases in Oklahoma”, which won the Charlotte S. Leebron Award from the Oklahoma State Medical Association. This is an actually hysterically funny thing to discover, when you get to one part in the video and you hear me misremember the type of organism causing tick diseases as a protozoan and not a bacteria! I’m going to plead “the hard drive is full”, but good grief THAT was embarrassing! LOL

To see the full video, find it on our Rumble and YouTube channels. You won’t want to miss the full podcast. It was SO informative – in a scary, horrifying way!

Also very interesting is the FACT that during the time I was working toward my Bachelor’s and Masters in Biology – nor during the time I was employed as an Epidemiologist at the OSDH – was I ever taught, nor did I read, or have information shared with me at all, that matched what Mary said during the podcast about the etiology of tick diseases. How believable and unbelievable all at the same time! It’s really SHOCKING, frankly, what we’re finding has been hidden from us by this government that steals our money to keep itself running!

Basically – and to recap the episode – Mary told us that tick-borne diseases are really bioweapons created on Plum Island, New York, by many of the Nazi scientists the US government gave safe harbor. Just think. To many, this sounds completely nuts, but remember, so many people STILL won’t believe that COVID-19 was a manufactured bioweapon even though it’s now pretty conclusively KNOWN to have originated in the Wuhan laboratory in China!

It’s also an odd thing to think that, of all the experimentation we know, AND SUSPECT, the US has done with bioweaponry, Americans wouldn’t think any of it would either get loose, or be specifically used on us. Yet so many refuse to believe.

In this clip, Mary talks about the history of tick-borne diseases. It’s a short video, but fascinating!

In the next clip, Mary describes the spread of Alpha-Gal, the syndrome produced in the Lone Star tick, by Lyme disease. Unfortunately, this syndrome is EXPLODING here in the US, with one of the main symptoms being that people who are bitten can become ‘allergic’ to eating meat, sometimes becoming either violently ill with gastric symptoms or even histamine reactions that can cause anaphylaxis! In fact, I have a friend, whose mother is required to carry an Epi-pen everywhere in the event she accidentally eats something that might have touched or otherwise contain a meat product.

In this video, she talks about a scientist, S Matthew Liao, who actually gives a Ted Talk indicating that science could save the planet from climate change if we could make humans allergic to meat, and wow, isn’t it amazing that the Lone Star tick is the vector for a bacteria that seems to cause that in some people bitten. Good grief! It’s unbelievable where we have come in the world today. I’m actually happy my grandparents were dead. All of them would have had a fit to learn about THIS information.

If you’d like to read more, find Mary’s article on her Substack, here. And don’t forget to SHARE!

Questions And Answers With State Auditor And Inspector, Cindy Byrd

Wednesday, March 19th at a special time – 10:00am – Michael and I had the privilege of interviewing Oklahoma’s State Auditor and Inspector Cindy Byrd. Cindy is – hands down – one of my favorite interviews because SHE KNOWS HER STUFF! After being an auditor for over 20 years, she’s got the answers to pretty much any questions you can ask. I’ve pulled several short clips from the interview, but you’ll want to watch the full interview on our Rumble or YouTube channels.

We started talking about the Tulsa Public Schools audit that she just recently finished at the request of the Governor. She talks about that – how does Cindy determine what agencies to audit? Is it up to her? Early on she tells us that she doesn’t have the power to independently audit agencies or political subdivisions. At about 14 minutes in, she tells us who has the authority to have her audit – and that includes taxpayers!

As I mentioned, we didn’t just discuss the TPS audit, there were a number of questions that came in from viewers that Cindy was kind enough to take. Additionally, she had a number of points she was interested in making herself – like this one in the clip below.

Isn’t it interesting how the people who make the laws don’t seem to be terribly interested in the topic of how to make state agencies more transparent with taxpayer dollars? How frustrating! But it gets worse! Cindy tells us in the clip below that even if she finds that a person or entity is breaking the law, there are no laws in Oklahoma that actually hold ‘bad actors’ responsible for the gross mismanagement of tax dollars. How can that be? That’s flat crazy and something that an Oklahoma legislator needs to resolve NEXT YEAR for certain!

In this last clip, Cindy tells viewers not to give up hope! If we’ll report what we know, or think, to be wrong and if we’ll stand up and make our elected officials do what’s right – get Cindy’s office to audit – we’ll get the finances of our Oklahoma government back in order! She believes we can do it, but we have to be citizens active in the process, so stayed involved and educated!

Republican Governor Stitt Sides With Democrats To Keep The Education Status Quo By Firing State Education Board Members Engaged In Protecting Oklahoma Kids

(edited after publication)

So interesting today to see that Governor Stitt has fired three members of the state school board because, “…it’s clear that our education infrastructure has fallen prey to needless political drama.”

Political drama. What does that actually mean? But then the Governor loves to use catch phrases – you know – like political animal – the term he used when he was out in Chairman of the House Appropriations and Budget Committee, Representative Kevin Wallace’s district, trying to get him re-elected over the grassroots, common family man the people preferred, Jim Shaw?

Seriously. What political drama? Literally. What exactly was the DRAMA the Board was engaging in?

I never saw a one of them talking about their jobs outside the Board in a way that invoked DRAMA. None of them were going before a camera to talk about their jobs or to condemn the Superintendent or the Governor or creating MAGA videos in their cars. SO WHAT DRAMA?

I think he means the DRAMA of removing the teaching certificates of taxpayer-supported public school employees who were preying upon children. THAT drama!

Seriously, does anyone realize that we’ve had a drag queen principal with a drunk driving and child pornography charge – who only went away because of outside pressure by local media outlet V1SUT – and a Superintendent in Shawnee and a coach in Shawnee and incidents in Kingfisher and Ninnekah and Salina and Perry and Wewoka where districts are being sued because NO ONE WOULD PROTECT STUDENTS FROM EMPLOYEES WHO WERE HURTING CHILDREN? THAT kind of drama Mr. Stitt?

Kendra Wesson – one of the removed Board members – is one of the most transparent, hard-working, smart, committed women I know. She was always prepared for a meeting and truly had a heart for kids – a not-so-surprising-fact when you find out that she has eight of her own. Her removal is absolute NONSENSE. She wasn’t engaged in any kind of political drama in any way. All she was trying to do in her position was go over and above to help Oklahoma kids.

WHO IN THE HELL FIRES SOMEONE LIKE KENDRA WESSON????

She and this Board were actively involved in attempting to remove teachers and other public school personnel who were a danger to children – and now all of them but two – Governor Stitt’s attorney at Gateway Mortgage, Sarah LePak – and Zach Archer – who, like Governor Stitt, works in the financial industry – are left. What do they know about education? Apparently, they know how to be an attorney and a financial analyst – but, dang it – that is the kind of person our Governor admires!

So what about these new Board members?

Michael Tinney is the husband of Ginger Tinney of Professional Oklahoma Educators. Mr. Tinney is an oil and gas attorney with Ames, Ashabranner, Taylor, Lawrence, Laudick & Morgan in Oklahoma City. I guess we should be happy that he’s at least CONNECTED to someone who knows about education, ‘cuz at this point, we’re 0-2 there.

Ryan Deathridge is a small business owner and the Kingfisher County 911 Director. He has a double major in Agriculture and Finance.

If he is from Kingfisher, he is resident of the Kingfisher Public School system where the district was slapped with a $5 million dollar lawsuit over charges of abuse by Kingfisher Football Coach Jeff Myers. Myers, who was banned from any further activity with the team and whose contract was not to be renewed by the Board, was still employed as of December, when Kingfisher had to let go 22 positions to pay the settlement from the suit after the Kingfisher County Excise Board refused to pass the settlement cost on to tax payers.

And then we found this:

Apparently, in the 20-teens Deathridge was associated with the electric ‘car’ tax credit craze. And yes, there were federal income tax subsidies taken for the vehicles.

What an interesting choice for the State School Board. He has no education experience either.

And then there’s Chris VanDenhende who is listed in the Governor’s press release as being from Tulsa. According to VanDenhende’s LinkdIn page, he is from Stroud, Oklahoma, in Lincoln County, where he is Chief Financial Officer at Southwest Fuel Systems, LLC. and Mint Turbines.

Interesting choice Mr. VanDenhende. Apparently, he is friendly with Mr. Stitt’s friend, Kevin Wallace.

In a Lincoln County News Herald “Report From Kevin Wallace” on April 6, 2022, Mr. Wallace says, “I was fortunate to be invited to dinner on the eve of this event with many representatives from the industries. Chris VanDenhende, chief financial officer and chief strategy officer for Southwest Fuel Systems and Mint Turbines in Stroud, also attended. VanDenhende spoke recently at the Stroud Chamber banquet. It was a pleasure to get to see him again and to discuss his company’s growth in our House district.”

But, that’s not all (I feel like Monty Hall). Mint Turbines has been collecting Oklahoma Quality Jobs Incentive Payments since 2020. In 2024, his company got a ‘shout out’ from the Oklahoma Commerce Department, that included the following text:

Strategic Public/Private Partnerships and Industry Engagement

With nearly 72,000 square feet of factory and warehouse space, Mint Turbines is one of the few certified MRO facilities in North America. Known for its commitment to quality and customer service, the company serves both commercial and military sectors, ensuring top-tier turbine engine performance and reliability. Mint Turbines has partnered with ACES at numerous trade shows to boost their visibility within the aerospace industry and showcase their capabilities to key industry leaders.

They also received about $100,000 in training reimbursements from Department of Career and Technology Education and a 2 MILLION DOLLAR Federal Loan from the Export Bank.

So, no one on the State School Board has ANY EDUCATION EXPERIENCE at all and only attorney Mike Tinney is involved with someone who does. I’m sure that will be SUPER helpful to Oklahoma’s kids and will put us well on the way to improving our NAEP scores.

What’s even more interesting, is that Senator Julia Kirk put out THIS press release shortly after the “shake up” occurred.

Followed shortly by Senator Mark Mann.

Well thank God the DEMOCRATS are happy! That’s certainly why we elected another Republican Governor – to make Democrats happy!

The only other thing that sounds SUPER FISHY here, is that the Governor would decide TODAY, the day that Auditor Cindy Byrd was to make her audit of Tulsa Public Schools public, to make this School Board ‘shake up’ announcement based on the stupid premise of “political drama”. The Governor just had Bixby Superintendent Rob Miller stand with him for his state of the state address – touting the equally stupid cell phone bill (even funnier…Supt. Miller created his district’s policy without a law, yet the Governor pointed to him for support of the bill) and, as we all know, the Governor is from Tulsa.

Interestingly (I know, I keep using that word), Auditor Byrd was unable to release the findings because a truckload of lawyers working for TPS invoked an obscure law to halt its release. At her press conference she said the findings are significant and that she wasn’t allowed to provide the results to the public because of a law that no one had ever used in her 28 years as an auditor.

People, this state is in trouble. The people who run it do NOT HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART.

In fact, did you know that Governor Stitt still had financial interest in Gateway Financial Services and other Gateway entities as of 2019? Did you know that Oklahoma has given Gateway First – the fusion of Gateway Mortgage and Farmers Exchange Bank of Cherokee – hundreds of thousands of dollars in Quality Jobs Incentive Payments since 2019?

This State Board of Education ‘shake up’ was WRONG. Dead WRONG. It won’t help our NAEP scores, but I guarantee it’ll help score political points with someone somewhere – and that has to be what ALL of this is about. So, make no mistake, none of this was about helping Oklahoma kids!

Law Enforcement Use Of ‘FLOCK’ Camera Surveillance in Oklahoma Does Not Protect Our Constitutional Rights

Friday morning at 9am on the regular ROPE Report podcast, Michael and I welcomed Oklahoma Representative Tom Gann and former Logan County Commissioner, Marven Goodman, to talk about law enforcement surveillance of Oklahoma citizens through Automatic License Plate Readers (ALPRs). This is a HUGE topic, as there are two bills in the legislature this session that need to be stopped – SB857 and HB1626.

During October of last year, Gann and Goodman discussed the problems with Automatic License Plate Readers (ALPRs – of which the brand Flock Safety – is probably the best known) at an Interim Study which Michael and I and our friend, Whitney Mullica from PikeOffOTA discussed via podcast, which you can find here. During that Interim Study, the video below was included. I am including it here, because so many people say things like, “If I’m not doing anything wrong, what does it matter?” They don’t realize exactly what can happen to them if they’re surveilled. Well, this man, who was simply traveling through Oklahoma did nothing wrong and yet he was pulled over and subjected to questioning and even a warrantless search by the law enforcement officer (LEO) that conducted the stop.

Hopefully, after that short – but painful – video, you now understand the reason why ALPRs are not a viable way of policing if citizens are to keep their Constitutional rights intact.

But it’s more than that. In Oklahoma, the use of ALPRs followed the genesis of a state law that required Oklahomans to buy uninsured motorist insurance. Rep. Gann and I discuss this fact in the clip below.

So why were Oklahomans required to buy ‘uninsured’ motorist protection? We’re 28th in Oklahoma in uninsured motorist coverage EVEN WITH the cameras, so what’s the point? Maybe a revenue stream for the Oklahoma District Attorney Council (ODAC)? According to Rep. Gann, the ODAC got ‘tired’ of coming before the legislature to seek funding and utilizing ALPRs to catch people without uninsured motorist coverage provided funding outside the legislative appropriation process – a process that also provides transparency for Oklahoma taxpayers that this group now DOESN’T HAVE.

But it gets worse – LEOs aren’t even legally allowed to use ALPR data the way it was used in the traffic stop above. How is it that a law enforcement agency is using technology illegally? Kind of smarts the sensibilities a bit, doesn’t it?

In the final video clip I’m going to add here, Rep. Gann points out that he’s asked how LEOs can be using this data illegally, but he gets no answer. In addition, even if a LEO does find a crime using this technology, NO PART OF THE DATA CAN BE USED IN COURT because we don’t have laws in Oklahoma that allow LEOs to collect the data in the first place. In fact, the man in the first video, sued Oklahoma and won because of that reason.

Rep. Gann and Michael talk about the Carpenter case – where cell phone data was collected by LEOs on a citizen and used against him. He then sued the government and won in the Supreme Court because this kind of tracking via technology is a violation of so many of our Constitutional rights to privacy.

This technology is also used to capture data that is then provided to OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT entities other than the one by which it was collected. So, for example, the City of Edmond collects data from ALPRs and stores the data, which can the be used by the ATF, or another state, or the FBI or the CIA – it’s ridiculous how many agencies can be allowed to see/use the data when it’s not even lawful to collect that data on residents in the state! Often, law enforcement entities – like Edmond – refuse to release the lists of law enforcement agencies using their ALPR data to the citizens they are surveilling!

Please contact your legislators – both Senators and Representatives – and ask them to VOTE NO on both SB857 and HB1626, which seek to put ‘guardrails’ (as explained to me by House author Representative John George) around the way in which law enforcement uses ALPR cameras.


Here is some suggested wording:

Dear ___________,

Please vote not on both SB857 and HB1626, seeking to put regulations around the use of ALPR (Flock Safety) cameras for law enforcement personnel in the state.

These cameras are only authorized for one use – to determine whether residents have uninsured motorist insurance. Oklahoma is 28th in the nation in uninsured motorist coverage. Clearly, the cameras aren’t solving that problem.

In addition, it’s a violation of my right to be forced to buy insurance I can choose to buy on my own.

The legislation allowing the use of ALPR cameras must be – at least – studied and completely revised, and – at most – completely repealed from law.

Protecting the individual rights of Oklahomans is the only reason you are elected by The People. Please protect my rights by working to stop the illegal surveillance of Oklahoma citizens via ALPR cameras.

Thank you,

Speaker-Elect Hilbert’s Legislative Priority Personifies Everything Wrong With Oklahoma Government

According to the Oklahoma Voice this morning, our new House Speaker-Elect, Kyle Hilbert has declared;

“In this upcoming session, if we pass two bills, a state budget and a bill reducing the usage of cellphones in public schools, it will be one of the most substantial legislative sessions that I’ve experienced.” 

Full stop.

During the fight to repeal Common Core from state law and remove it from Oklahoma classrooms, the talking points invariably used by legislators to stiff-arm our pleas included “we don’t like education mandates” and “we’re a local control state”. No joke. But then, during those years, one history teacher-turned legislator told me that Oklahomans send legislators to the capitol to “write bills”.

What The Bill Says

Here is the cell phone bill, created by Senate Education Committee Vice-Chair, Ally Seifried; SB139.

According to the press release sent out by Senate Media, the bill, “empower[s] schools to adopt ‘bell to bell’ cell phone policies”, yet the bill summary says, “An Act relating to schools; requiring school district boards of education to adopt a policy prohibiting use of cell phones while on campus during certain time period”. Requiring and ’empowering’ do not have the same meaning – the first includes force.

In fact, the bill goes on to say that it will require schools to set discipline policies for students who break the school’s required policy on cell phone use (the force part). It also allots up to 2 million taxpayer dollars (“if available”, whatever that means) to be granted to middle and high schools so they can buy something to STORE cell phones during the day.

Problems With The Bill

  1. What is the point of a school board? According to state law, individual local school boards have the right and ability to set policy – including policy over cell phones. This bill actively usurps local school board authority. On one hand, we expect parents to execute control over their minor children, yet so much of what the state does actually removes parental executive control in favor of a government policy, rule or law. How can a parent execute parental control if we keep removing their executive function?
  2. This is NEW LAW. How many laws do Oklahomans need to restrain them – or, in this case, their children? What about schools? Could an argument be made that part of the reason public schools in Oklahoma are failing is that they are constrained by state laws that may not have been needed at the local level?
  3. This law forces schools to create disciplinary actions to be meted out when students break cell phone policy. What happens if a school DOESN’T create a cell phone policy? What happens if they don’t create a discipline policy? How many times has state law required schools to create a policy, but then never forced the school to write the policy when they don’t? Tulsa attorney Maria Seidler has told us numerous times, for example, that public schools don’t adhere to all of Oklahoma’s Parental Rights law, but there isn’t an enforcement mechanism in the law to make them, forcing parents to use their own money to sue schools while schools use taxpayer dollars to fight them. How many times has the state forced schools to follow the policies they DO create – about bathrooms, free speech, bullying, or student safety, for example? This law, then, would be meaningless, just like so many others our legislature creates, because there isn’t a mechanism of enforcement.
  4. Schools can apply for a grant to create a place/places for student cell phones to be kept. Two million dollars will be pulled from taxpayer pockets to supply grant ‘winners’. Is there a reason cell phones can’t be turned off as students come into class, dropped into a basket on the teacher’s desk and collected before they leave the classroom? Two million dollars is needed for that?

What Our Constitution Guarantees

The Oklahoma Constitution says the following in Section 2-1: Political power – Purpose of government – Alteration or reformation:


All political power is inherent in the people; and government is instituted for their protection, security, and benefit, and to promote their general welfare; and they have the right to alter or reform the same whenever the public good may require it: Provided, such change be not repugnant to the Constitution of the United States.


How does any of the nonsense written in our Speaker-Elect’s priority bill match with the wording of our state Constitution?

In fact,

  1. It usurps local control of government – which removes the security citizens should have in control of their government and removes any benefit to them by taking the issue out of their hands.
  2. It creates a NEW law, removing power from the people and giving it to government. The more laws government creates, the more individual liberty is constrained and the less benefit or security ‘the people’ receive.
  3. This law is meaningless because it accomplishes nothing. Meaningless laws cause ‘the people’ to suffer. Even if prohibitions were added to the bill that FORCED schools to create policy on this issue, it would do little more than once again remove the power from “the people”/parents to deal with the issue and give it to government.
  4. Taking MORE dollars from taxpayers to buy unnecessary items is burdensome to the liberty of ‘the people’. The economy is hard. Parents need to KEEP THEIR OWN MONEY and decide how to spend it. Interestingly, if parents choose not to pay their taxes so they won’t be used for government frivolity, government will fine them or send them to prison. THAT is how out-of-whack our government is compared to what our Constitution says our government must do or be.

What The Legislature MUST Prioritize Instead

The legislature MUST:

  1. Prohibit PRIVATE BUSINESSES from receiving public funds to do business in the state; ie – remove ALL tax credits and incentives for private business. This would restore free enterprise and a fair economy, creating a benefit for all citizens and security of an even playing field for those who own their own businesses. As example; we spent at least one million taxpayer dollars on a fledgling electric car maker that has never lived up to its promises.
  2. Prohibit taxation of property and income (which is also property). Our state constitution says in Section 2-2 on Inherent Rights; “All persons have the inherent right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the enjoyment of the gains of their own industry“. The bolded terminology refers to property and income. The taxation of such flies in the face of our Constitution’s requirement for the government to provide us protection, security and benefit. The legislature should write a state question to enable the people to change the Constitution to prevent the use of property taxation and start to phase out income tax ASAP (see Rep. Jay Steagall).
  3. Prohibit eminent domain for turnpikes, solar installations, wind turbines or any desire of PRIVATE INDUSTRY to conduct business in our state. Taking the property of ‘the people’ should only be done in VERY DIRE need that would benefit ‘the people’. A private wind turbine company – Invenergy – shouldn’t be able to take property from Oklahoma citizens to create an electric transmission corridor that would allow them to ship Oklahoma wind energy to out of state customers.
  4. Stop giving money to public schools that do not educate children. We are 49th in education and most children in the state aren’t proficient in either reading or math. Uneducated students remove our security and provide little benefit to the state or it’s citizens and taking tax dollars from citizens to support failure removes their security. Public schools often have multi-million dollar sports stadiums full of high school kids who can’t count back change. Stop allowing taxpayers to be robbed for failure.

What “The People” Must Do

  1. Contact your legislator. Remind them of the guarantees our State Constitution provides Oklahoma citizens. When legislation is promoted that does NOT agree with these guarantees, immediately call and/or email and explain why the bill must be voted down.
  2. Until we Oklahomans understand the function of our state government, we can’t educate our elected officials. At least read the Bill of Rights of our Constitution. Then, educate those around you including your legislators. It’s the only way to put government back in the hands of ‘the people’ and out of those who think only of lobbyists, public school bullies and elevating their power quotient for another job in government when they’re through at the legislature.
  3. Track legislation through the legislative website and/or Legiscan and/or follow OKHPR, OK2A, Save Oklahoma Farms And Ranches and ROPE, in order to know what laws are being introduced during the session and how they affect you.

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